he said he was heading to indianapolis, indiana, and that's where he was from. he didn't have enough money to get there. >> did he seem -- you offered him, ron, a job doing some odd jobs around the church, i think pulling some weeds and cleaning up some hoses. you were going to pay him $40. did he seem grateful for the opportunity? >> yeah, he told me he was out of money and so i offered a job for him, so he mowed the grass and brought the weed whacker out and did a bunch of the work around the church. i paid him, he took the money and like any good pastor i talked about tithing and he wanted to tithe off the $40. >> and i know eventually your suspicions raised to the point where you did call law enforcement as did another parishioner who apparently recognized him from the news. he was planning to come back and perhaps do some more work the next day and that's when he was arrested. he was arrested with a handgun. you now know a little bit more about his background. have you stopped to think about what could have been had he come back to that church? >> yeah, i s